Curse

Pkest · Jun 28, 2007, 08:28 PM // 20:28

Since they crippled all the bonus items you get from prerelease bonus packs (after people had paid for them) and refuse to correct that, why would anyone bother buying one of these things anyway.

Mordakai · Jun 28, 2007, 09:20 PM // 21:20

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Originally Posted by Pkest

Since they crippled all the bonus items you get from prerelease bonus packs (after people had paid for them) and refuse to correct that, why would anyone bother buying one of these things anyway.

Really? I have to admit, I haven't used those items in quite awhile. What did they do?

Mordakai · Jun 28, 2007, 09:30 PM // 21:30

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Originally Posted by DragonLord|PL|

Why no extra slot? The GW:P got 4 slots out of 6 possible characters. GW:F 4/8, GW:NF 4/8, all merged got 8/10, add the bonus pack NF you will get 9/10, you still can`t get 1 class, even 2 if you want to have slot for PvP.

1) Anet never promised slots = to playable classes. I don't think they ever intended that most people would have a character of every class (or Guild Wars would have shipped with 6 slots).

2) The extra slot in the Nightfall per-release was (IMO) to justify the $5 charge. I know some people got that for free, but I don't think it was ever supposed to be free.

3) There is no financial incentive to offer "free" extra slots with GWEN. All the content is for level 20 characters, so there's no incentive to roll up a new char. If people want to make a new character, they should pay $10 and do it now, before GWEN comes out.

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Originally Posted by DragonLord|PL|

Personally I would be happy with some kind of special skin max Sword or Hammer. Or maybe a Wand + Offhand combo, shield?

Yeah, a special skin could be worth it. Make it inscribeable?

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Originally Posted by DragonLord|PL|

And I`m pretty sure it will have a 10h/14day guest passed for frined/s, maybe even a special music code. Some artwork possible and few trailers to full the CD (yuck! I hate when someone puts all junk just to make CD "fuller"). Some kind of storage upgrade would be nice (an extra set of spaces to storage would be great). Maybe even a bonus hero?

I'm not sure how those guest passes did. The ones I handed out were not well recieved. Still, it would be a good way to get new people to know about the game before GW2.

As for the art and stuff on the CD, most of that stuff you can find on the internet. Not worth it, IMO.

Also, I read somewhere there will NOT be a collector's edition?

If that's true, then why would they make a pre-release?

EDIT: Of course, if it was something like this, I would buy it:

http://www.gameseek.co.uk/pd/PCvkerk1e6zec/

=HT=Ingram · Jun 28, 2007, 11:25 PM // 23:25

the way best buy handles it is not that bad really, its just not traditional. basically they put it out like a regular game for $9.99 and you get it. when the game comes out bring your receipt in and you get a 9.99 credit on which ever version you wish to get Collectors or regular up at customer service counter. along with any bonus promotional item that they have exclusive to their store, like the teashirts with nightfall and factions.

Other places I have heard even worse disasters in that they send you the preorder pack for full price and never end up sending the final release product at all. Or in gamestops case billing expensive UPS air shipping for the preorder pack then shipping the retail game at release at 4th class mail book rate so it takes 3 to 6 weeks to get to you through US mail system.

the preorder packs have been worth it in every case thus far, but I will stick with the bestbuy system, cause at least in my case I can go inside the store and talk to someone to get the ball rolling... I did the Gamestop route for the first game and it was a disaster I will never use that option again.

Muspellsheimr · Jun 29, 2007, 07:52 AM // 07:52

How the pre-order package is supposed to be run, is as a bonus for pre-ordering the game. It is NOT something you purchase seperatly - it is part of the pre-ordering process.

I would recommend Gamestop for your pre-ordering, as they seem to know how things work (at least around my area), and I have never had any mixups with them before.

pamelf · Jun 29, 2007, 02:27 PM // 14:27

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Originally Posted by Pickletron

When I pre-ordered Nightfall at Electronics Boutique here in Australia they gave me the pre-order pack for free on that day.
They seems to know what they we're doing.

Yep, never had any problems with pre-release over here. I pre-ordered, put my $10 deposit down, got the pre-release pack and got the $10 off when I bought the game. That's how I figured it was supposed to work...

Neo Nugget · Jun 29, 2007, 02:56 PM // 14:56

EB games gave it to me for free(2 different stores) cuz i bought CE and regular. They gave it to me a bit later(2 weeks after nf pve preview), but i also did not have to pay for it because they said i preordered it

yay

I believe i preordered for 5 dollars.

Darksun · Jun 29, 2007, 04:33 PM // 16:33

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

Really? I have to admit, I haven't used those items in quite awhile. What did they do?

They didn't really do anything spectacular, but they allowed you mod & upgrade them. The fact that they took that out sucks.

Echuu Ishtar · Jun 29, 2007, 05:21 PM // 17:21

When I pre-ordered NF they had no idea how to handle the PRBP at GameStop. I ended up pre-ordering the collector's edition, so they just gave me the pack. My friend who pre-ordered the normal edition was charged $5 extra for it.

Mordakai · Jun 29, 2007, 05:32 PM // 17:32

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Originally Posted by Darksun

They didn't really do anything spectacular, but they allowed you mod & upgrade them. The fact that they took that out sucks.

That does suck, but I don't think Anet lied to anyone. I didn't read anywhere on the bonus package that it included modable bonus items.

Not saying Anet wasn't wrong to nerf them, but certainly not as big a issue as Pkest made it out to be.

lennymon · Jun 29, 2007, 05:53 PM // 17:53

target always seems to have the bonus packs for $1.99 if anyone cares.

Neo Nugget · Jun 29, 2007, 08:34 PM // 20:34

I saw the factions ones like 1 month after release on clearance for .99c....niiice:P

Matfei · Jul 09, 2007, 08:49 AM // 08:49

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Originally Posted by The Great Al

It's not a discount. Some stores made you pay 5 or 10 dollars for the prerelease pack, and that money was supposed to go towards the $50 for the game. I know the local EB Games store sold the prerelease packs for like 5 bucks, but I actually had to separately preorder the game, and those 5 dollars did not count towards my purchase. However, I couldn't find another store anywhere near me that had the preorder package, so I had no choice. 5 extra dollars isn't a huge deal but it's more the principle of the matter.

Same thing here.

The blokes at EBGames run around like headless chooks about this type of thing.

Thunder79 · Jul 09, 2007, 10:11 AM // 10:11

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

That does suck, but I don't think Anet lied to anyone. I didn't read anywhere on the bonus package that it included modable bonus items.

Not saying Anet wasn't wrong to nerf them, but certainly not as big a issue as Pkest made it out to be.

Agreed....first I never realized you could mod them at all...just never occured to me to try. I always just used them for outfitting my heroes until I got a better weapon for them...or using them on my low level character until they got a better weapon.

Pkest · Jul 09, 2007, 02:12 PM // 14:12

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

That does suck, but I don't think Anet lied to anyone. I didn't read anywhere on the bonus package that it included modable bonus items.

Not saying Anet wasn't wrong to nerf them, but certainly not as big a issue as Pkest made it out to be.

If you buy one prerelease and the items are modable you assume then next ones will be the same and they are. Then after everyone has bought them they change the rules and make them unmodable. Try reading the 6 or so other threads about this subject and see all the people who think this actually IS a big deal.

Seissor · Jul 09, 2007, 02:32 PM // 14:32

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Originally Posted by The Great Al

Unless I am badly mistaken this is incorrect.

It's supposed to be, you pre-order and get he pre-order pack FREE! But some stores didnt understand or like the idea of giving something for free, and thus charged for it.

Mine didn't, some did.

Pkest · Jul 09, 2007, 04:46 PM // 16:46

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Originally Posted by Seissor

It's supposed to be, you pre-order and get he pre-order pack FREE! But some stores didnt understand or like the idea of giving something for free, and thus charged for it.

Mine didn't, some did.

Not really. It's not called a preorder pack it's called a prerelease bonus pack and in the past Anet had just given them to stores free of charge (as I understand it) and told them to do whatever they want with it. This is why every store deals with it differently.

None of the local retailers in my area even heard about them so I've always had to buy mine from Amazon where they were sold as a separate product.

I suspect that this time, since it will be sold in the online store with a price set by anet, that things may be different. Especially since Anet is adopting the 'credit toward purchase of Gw:en' model.

Mordakai · Jul 09, 2007, 05:09 PM // 17:09

The whole "Buy GW:EN Online" push makes this thread a little obsolete, no?

Don't want to hassle with stores not knowing WTF?

Buy online and get the Bonus Pack to boot.

Lonesamurai · Jul 09, 2007, 05:31 PM // 17:31

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

The whole "Buy GW:EN Online" push makes this thread a little obsolete, no?

Don't want to hassle with stores not knowing WTF?

Buy online and get the Bonus Pack to boot.

oh and gaile confirmed the preorder will be on the ingame store too

Neo Nugget · Jul 09, 2007, 06:01 PM // 18:01

well you get a discount of GW:EN if you get the prerelease and GW:EN from the online store i believe. Like normal stores***should***.